Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Scandals & idol images

allkpop.com201211way-back-wednesday-scandals This is the only reference I am giving to AKP

So I found this link about scandals past scandals and really UI do not see how some are scandals at all . They claim IU and Eunhyuk is a big scandal how is it a scandal that two adults are dating? if in fact they are and why exactly does it matter? who is making these mole hills into Mountains?

most of these things state clear as day the real scandal was to the fans and the fans reactions. Because they somehow believe over the course of time that in the world of entertainment Fan = GOD but it doesn't Fan is fan and god is well the lord almighty or a Korean male group who split up.

There is one reason why Fans consider these things scandals and get upset when their idols get involved in sticky situations. You paint the idols as something more than mere mortals.

So and so is Mr innocent church going fear of god never do wrong type of guy so when something bad happens and he is involved with it OMG! it's the end of the world because his false image has been tarnished.

Idols have Personas and Fans forget that fact and expect them to be that way at all times. Living a lie is no easy feat and they cannot do it 24/7 regardless of how talented they are as actors. Some Artists Hate having to act a certain way and have even admitted to being told the fans would not like them if they acted like themselves. That sirs is bullshit! I will not deny personality is important to me and to some others but seriously half the bimbos out there go for the guy they find the best looking and sounds the most amazing to them and then they like the personality as long as he is hawt and can sing and dance good her insides quiver, OMG did he just try to be cute Amazing! I like Oppa so much more now OMG Oppa looks so sexy when he is angry1 these girls are twisted visuals are the most important to half the floozies out there . Which is doubly sad because it is also why cosmetic surgery is so accepted in Korea because looks are more important than personality such a shame.

As I told my friend Asia I was going to be writing a post about personas and how idols do not all like them and such she left me a comment I just have to share.
my comment and hers

I have one left I want to write about the personas they force onto idols and make them keep even when they are uncomfortable with them

Asia :" Exactly!!! Like Ji hyo and her persona on the "monday couple" or IU and the eunhyuk dating scandal. I'm so pissed off with that. If fans love their idols so much, they need to back the fuck off and stay out of their personal business EVEN IF info or photos were leaked. Who the fuck cares who Eunhyuk or IU are dating? Does it change who they are? No. Does it alter our lives in any way? Only shattering our silly fangirl/fanboy dreams, that's it. I'm tired of people always speculating to the point where they obsess over these rumors then sit there and try to tell me the picture is proof. Are they friends with the idol? Do they know them personally enough to say "YES! They are totally dating!"? No! Just ugh i stopped believing in rumors and socalled "evidence" a long time ago."

Here is something I will quote something I found on tumblr

"[INFO] Hyuna talks to her Antis by letter on Fancafe. “i’m sorry if I can be myself just sometimes.Sorry to be another off stage.I regret that the only thing that the agency sell is my sexy side.I regret that they can not see my true personality. Not me, that’s not my genuine personality. It’s uncomfortable, be seductive / “hot” and sexy all the time.My only relief is when I’m at home with my friends or my mother, with them I can be myself. They, besides my mother, are probably the only ones who know the real me.But, why people criticize me? You should know that as a celebrity, you need to have an image. And this is mine. I’m not always proud of it, and I prefer to act cute rather than sexy, but that’s how I’m supposed to be.People do not know me, and judge me by my personality on stage. Do not they realize that this makes me sad? They do not know that I cry every night because I can not be myself all the time. Do not know that I suffer from de pression since I left Wonder Girls? And yet, go ahead, tell me false, ugly bitch. You do not know that I suffer from chronic gastroenteritis?. You know that is incurable ‘. Why only see bad things and not the things that make me a human being? Why do they hate me? What have I done? These people .. those who hate me so much .. probably have more in common with me than you think. My parents divorced when I was a teenager, my father left. He and I have not spoken again. Or do not know how is going with. That’s why I have this tattoo, because my mother always supported my goals and dreams. I will always be grateful. Do not people see my tattoo? Do people not understand that I’m just a girl? A young girl, misunderstood. Please give me a chance. Please see this through my eyes."

Many girls who read this cried they sympathized or felt angry that she had to go through that all alone. What is her company thinking? they are merely thinking sex sells and that is that never mind if the artist isn't happy and doesn't want to do it as long as they are getting big bucks through her discomfort and misery nothing else matters.

This next part is taken from http://blog.mjohnso.com/post/25658661932/the-dual-identities-of-after-school

"Previously when discussing identity, I treated it as a very singular matter – that k-pop idols have multiple identities, and that the persona presented to fans is a construction meant to make them appeal to a large audience, and not their real selves. In essence, the person they presented on stage was an identity completely separate from their real, authentic selves. While these personas were subject to change from release to release, the case of After School shows that it also varies country to country.

Not to say that this is by any means a groundbreaking revelation. It has long been accepted that k-pop groups will need to tailor their image and concept to appeal to a target market. Yet while k-pop fans seem to accept this as a reality of the market, I can’t help but feel that is because, it’s not really a true reality. As of right now, most k-pop idols have been confined to Korea and Japan, two countries’ whose cultures are not radically different. Their remains a sense of unity, sameness between them.

What happens though, when idols finally do make a real move into other markets like the United States? As I have said before, idols images will need to undergo dramatic transformations, and thus there will be the creation of a new image, another constructed identity. How will fans feel if there are three different versions of their idols, or eventually four, or five? What if these idols are completely at odds with their first persona, their Korean one? And how will prospective fans in these new markets react to the existence of groups with different identities? Will they accept it as k-pop fans do now, or will it be simply be another mark against them?
This question of identity is of course contingent on how successful and responsive foreign markets are to k-pop idols in the first place. Yet even at this point, where it is not certain that this method is feasible, I still have some reservations about instituting utilizing it in the first place.

While most fans implicitly accept that what their favorite idols show them is a persona, one that obfuscates their real selves, outwardly people do not acknowledge this. They treat the personas as if that is who they really are. They are like the subjects in the story, “The Emperors New Clothes”, willing to keep up the pretense that the emperor is not naked, but wearing clothes, or in this case, that the idols fictive selves are fact. But they are certainly only willing to do it to a point. If entertainment agencies are doing little to hide it, letting the artificiality become too plain and open, it is going to become more difficult for fans to accept it, an act which in time would prove detreimental to fandom.

Eventually, someone would stand up like the child in the story, and point out that the emperor is indeed not wearing clothes, destroying the carefully constructed artifice."

it's much easier to just be yourself with some boundaries I could probably say there are several versions of myself that I show to the world. There are always some people you are able to be your full true self with you must always know how much of yourself to give and to whom. If you know you are being watched by people of all ages you restrict yourself from certain behaviors and word choices and the likes.
themes concepts sure fine no one said you can't have those but some people have personalities that are different from what they are told to act like.


Lee Joon is known as Babo (which means idiot) by his fans which is terribly rude to me. someone on tumblr maintains that Lee joon stopped exercising due not to laziness but to being called Babo Muscles.

Yoochun they wanted to appear weaker then the rest so he was not to work out with the others when they were.

Hyuna must be a sex symbol regardless if she would rather be the girl next door.

Song Seunghyun and ftisland have been treated pretty rudely asked rude questions or asked questions in a nonflattering way . and they are not the only ones.

There are few entertainers who are able to be themselves without being reprimanded there are two entertainers I can think of who get away with speaking their minds and that is Kim Heechul Oppa and Jang Keun Suk.

Fans are just people and Entertainers are just people too one is not more important than the other everyone deserves to be treated well with respect. Everyone has the right to privacy their private lives should be theirs to enjoy as they want as long as no one is being harmed and everything is legal. Entertainers are grateful to their fans but that does not mean they should become cardboard cutouts for them. Fans are important to entertainers but that does not mean they should act like they own the entertainer and pry into their private lives at the end of the day we get an awful lot from our idols without having to snoop through their lives. They appear on television for us are in magazine interviews and televised ones as well , put on fanmeets, concerts and other events and yet still people try to hunt them down and control them your greed is too much.

Netizen Arrested

http://www.askkpop.com/article/Netizen-arrested-for-malicious-comments-about-Wonder-Girls-Sohee/#.UoGqBCfCWyI

After reading this article many people raised their hands in the air clapping and cheering for JYP in that moment everyone had the same thought "JYP YOU DA MAN!"

However sometime later some started to think "why not do more?" or "why is it only the females that seem to be treated so well " 2PM is known to have the most anti fans out of all the entertainers. Did he do the same towards their attackers? or is it because they are men they can handle everything that comes their way? JYP took the first step but will he take more? can we count on him to defend the artists against the evil hiding behind the "fan" mask? if you can succeed once you can succeed numerous times. Why not go after sasaengs in the same manner it's not that difficult is it? I mean they flaunt their actions all over it shouldn't be that hard to stop them .

Companies should follow JYP's example and action and start a motion forget Hallyu Wave start the Wave of justice for your artists who are treated unfairly by the public. When there is a sasaeng that texts a star photos of their own home and property proving they have illegal access to their home and property go to the authorities and go after the person. They have proof phone records will show the person sent the text and where from the photo is proof of where it was taken and the stars number that hasn't been given was also possessed in a manner of which was not the stars doing. Fight for the freedom of your artist fairly make them feel working with and for you is the best choice they made in their lives!

Sasaengs Netizens Anti fans they have no fear because they do not believe in the Korean Justice system and I doubt anyone can blame them . I believe it is time that companies managers and stars themselves give them reason to worry about doing wrong to the stars working hard to bring the people good quality entertainment.

Fancafes ( )-Jinyo

All These I DEMAND THE TRUTH CAFES make my blood boil are you serious! come on give it a rest do you have nothing better to do with your lives than to accuse stars of lying or digging into their personal lives. The person who has the most reason to hate those cafes is probably Epik High's Tablo whom had to deal with alot because of them and has stated they contributed to his fathers death.

they have gone after him over his education then they went after another entertainers daughter about her education and now they are going after IU and Eunhyuk over if they are dating or not? come on really?

for those of you who are unaware here is a link to catch up on this new development

http://www.soompi.com/2012/11/13/i-jinyo-and-i-mitsa-cafes-formed-after-iu-eunhyuks-selca-scandal/

not too long ago IU accidentally posted a photo of them together where she is in a pj top and he appears topless seems as though they are lying on a bed and it fueled more rumors that the two were dating even though they have denied it. honestly I do not see what the big fuss is. Do I not understand because I am not Korean? or is it simply because I have been taught that the private lives of others have absolutely nothing to do with me ? how does them being a couple affect my daily life? it doesn't except for the annoyance of others freaking out over it like they have the right to stake claim on the private personal lives of people they do not even know.

When they are ready to come out as a couple they will perhaps they are just very close friends it is not impossible after all they are limited to whom they are friends with given all the attention they receive. It's not impossible for people of the opposite sex to be close friends some of my best friends are males and when seen together we used to get mistaken as lovers but we have always been nothing more than friends. So why can't it be the same for them people seem to forget that stars are human.

As that Link above shows another cafe was made as well it is called a I-MitSa Cafe this cafe is the total opposite of the truth cafes and is set up to try and protect IU and Eunhyuk and once everything dies down with them other artists in the same position they are currently in. Bravo to the fans who are trying to help out their idols in a positive way.

Update Open World Entertainment

http://www.asianjunkie.com/2013/07/open-world-entertainment-ceos-sentence-finalized-jang-seok-woo-to-serve-6-years/

Having changed the original link the story may be a bit different but what it comes down to is still present.
In August he was sentenced to 6 years although they were trying to get him 9 years honestly I still think it's too little I say it should be 5 years per victim at least. It was also said he was calling the only victim out of 4 that was still testifying against him threatening her.

He is currently trying to have his sentence lessened by admitting his guilt instead of denying it like he had done previously hoping that in admitting to his guilt and trying to suck up his sentence will be less long. This man makes me sick. I have read the new link I posted up above and in that link it says what the results of his plea , he still got 6 years , 5 years with a public record and has to do some  kind of therapy. I do not understand how things work in Korea  I do know however that here in Canada if you commit such an act and were found guilty it ALWAYS STAYS on your personal record. Whenever you commit a felony it will be there as a prior conviction not just after 5 years or so that kind of thing does not disappear! that kind of behavior with as many victims as he's already had  it's likely to reoccur and that is why it's important to be in the file because it shows a prior disposition to such acts.

http://www.jpopasia.com/news/open-world-entertainments-ceo-pleads-guilty-to-sexual-assault-charges::12538.html

http://enewsworld.mnet.com/enews/contents.asp?idx=20789



Twitter frenzy

I'm sorry I have not posted anything in a month or so but there have been things in my life I had to take care of and honestly nothing really stood out to me until just recently but I was sick all last month and am currently still not in the best of health.

There is one thing that caught my eye some time ago but I didn't feel up to writing a post about it although I did comment on both my twitter and facebook on the matter. The matter being JYJ's Jaejoong and his twitter.

Many fans or lets at least just put them in some kind of category went mental when the star had no more profile on twitter. Be it hacker made or by his own hand his profile was reduced to 3 dots as so ... This had fans saying things such as I lost all hope that profile was the only thing keeping my faith in the 5 of them becoming 1 again so on so forth yadayada blahblah.

At this point I was sitting there rolling my eyes at the outrageous things these netizens were saying or trying to say. Automatically they were on a wild blind goose chase threatening the shadows on the wall for hurting their precious. You have no idea what is going on and yet you are throwing threats around as though you have every right to do so. ATTENTION Cyber Mafia now Hiring prerequisites EXTREME FAN GIRL

I do not understand fangirls you are trying to support him? ok well how about this for a thought let the man sleep instead of spamming his twitter with your so called concern "don't worry oppa we will get those people hurting you we will protect oppa"

"Oppa" probably has notifications off so that twitter does not keep him up all night with the fan girls and their delusions. Many people have written about this kind of stuff on facebook and I am going to post my friend Asias status in which some of us have commented.

I really hate selfish fans. I cannot fathom why they think their happiness means more than the idol's. Why as soon as an idol leaves a group, does or says something the fan doesn't agree with, leaves a website because it's not good for them, etc., fans can't just trust the idol that they've made the right decision for themselves. All they care about is what THEY think happened, and how it affects
THEM. I'm sorry if i hurt some feelings but its fucking true. Its not about you, you're just a fan. In the grand scheme of things you have ZERO power over the idol. They make their own damn decisions and no matter how much you bitch and complain about it what's done is done. Jaejoong left Twitter, its sad but think about it. Is him leaving REALLY that bad? Is Twitter SUCH a great website that you just can't understand why he would leave? Maybe you do understand, you just are worried that now you can't keep up with his life. Sorry that's the sad reality of a fan. They choose how much we get to hear and see about them.

that is the status and next I will have the comments in "

AW: "Twitter sucks anyway lmao I only have one because it's the best way to contact certain people. Actually only one person lol Jaejoong can do what he wants. He's a person first, idol second. And people forget that he's a sweet sensitive man and can't deal with the bullshit people keep throwing at him on Twitter. It's ridiculous! People acting like this is the biggest tragedy ever. -_- "OMG I'm gonna cry myself to sleep and hope when I wake up this is just a nightmare" "the people who hacked him deserve to burn in hell" "OMG SO SAD I'M GONNA DIE" omg stfu lol"

Asia : Riiigghhht!?? Lol glad you understand

WWS: "so many people wrapped up in the life of one idol. I'm sure the boys love their fans, but there has to be a line that should not be crossed. In America it is called stalking-in Korea, it is called reality. Jae has to do what is best for him, and I am sure that there are several hundred stalkers that will still keep everyone informed of his life. Just tell the ones who so upset at Jae to hook up with John Egg. At least he isn't a stalker, but will keep them filled in of upcoming things and pics."

Then there is me who wrote I hear you loud & clear on this I've been saying pretty much the same since everyone started their freakout over his bio being gone. Saying it was holding them all together blablablahblab
I'm just kinda whatever not like he ever answered pretty much any of us fans back he just let us know a bit more about his Here n now

then another girl commented

KL: "tbh, im not sorry about any hurt feelings. i know i sound mean. too bad. we are fans. not their leaders. our purpose is encouragement and support. and if you're like me, worrying and wondering if theyre ok/got to rest/etc. i admit i was upset when aoi deleted his twitter. not because i couldnt follow his life story, but because of what caused it."

I then responded to her

KL I understand what you are saying but people still take things too far all the same . I worry about everyone but I do not go apeshit over it.

Twitter helps fans see more into the lives of the artists we see the things we shouldn't see and are willing to show us. Since we are not sasaengs we do not know what they do in their everyday lives and although we may get curious over what they do a majority of us normal fans are happy with things this way knowing they will show us what they want us to see through twitter. It is a privilege given to us by the star it is by no means an OBLIGATION. people take things for granted where the stars are involved they have the right to their privacy "FANS" need to stop acting like they own them because they don't!

Another thing that annoys me on twitter is the fan aggression I understand you get upset when your bias is hurt. I get it I hate seeing people hurt. I do not agree however with having my feed filled with hate messages to shippers about how they are crazy and deserve to die. I get it that they are mentally unhinged but you are equally unhinged to go on some emo trip wish of death list frenzy. NOBODY and I mean NOBODY has the right to tell someone else to go die because they are crazy. God is the only one with the right to decide what makes you so great that you have the right to tell someone to kill themselves? Crazy people need help not death wishes.

What is wrong with the world that violence is the first thing they turn to in any state of mind or emotion. Do you think Oppas are happy that they have one group of psychos threatening the other group of psycho's all in the name of Love for Oppa? give me a break they aren't going to pay anymore attention to you then they do to the crazies that make them cringe in their books you are as cringe worthy as the girls that follow them or have their minds set that they are a true life pair of star crossed lovers.

People who believe they own a person or that they are entitled to every waking moment of a stars life need some professional health services.

Saturday, September 29, 2012

project update

I've finally finished my first Sasaeng files video which I will post on here, other news for projects we have been working on. I am waiting to hear from the group creator, I wanted her to hand over the materials for the take my heart project. The project which had been put on hiatus due to her program for photo editing or her PC/ laptop was not working properly. Honestly it's a little hazy after all this time. I am however trying to get the material so that I can try to wrap it up and get it out there.
My friend and fellow Admin Dilem has her Turkish blog running strong with an increasing viewing audience I will post her link below as well. Fellow Admin and good friend of mine Muriah has put together a project with Cassie's where they are sending in letters to the judge in charge of the JYJ/SME court case. That which should be coming to a wrap soon enough, I believe she just needs to name of the judge in order to have them delivered to him. I believe depending on the results of her project an assembled protest should be held at the court. We have some big plans but it's still a little early to share all of them .
We are ordinary people trying to make extraordinary things happen, while still living our everyday lives to the best of our abilities.



http://layaboutheotaku.wordpress.com/2012/09/21/evrensel-haklariniz/

Tuesday, September 25, 2012

OUTRAGEOUS!

I have harped on about my views towards how korean fans anti fans and fans from other fandoms disgust me when it comes to funerals. Once again I must express my utmost disgust I feel so sorry to hear people had to go through such disrespect. http://forums.allkpop.com/threads/some-people-threw-eggs-during-hyunseungs-fathers-funeral.44266/

this as far as I know atm is a rumor but it's disgusting!

(Anything in BOLD is something I agree with or believe in)
Since many people do not read the actual articles I've taken to copy pasting them

copied from above link

"I heard that some people (apparently VIPs) threw eggs at Yoseob during the funeral. Seriously, Hyunseung just lost his father & why would someone do that at a fucking funeral? Why throw eggs at Beast when they too are mourning the loss of someone close to them? I don't care how much you hate them but doing that at a funeral is just low. It's disgusting.

Also, some B2uties were trying to get autographs from the members. Are you fucking kidding me? Reading these kind of things make me want to fly to Korea and slap the living shit out of those disrespectful people."

How terrible is that ! do not harass them at such a time you are kicking them while they are down! and you are being disrespectful!

Here are some comments from fans

"Now this is fuckin rude!!! I know how he feels, because I've lost my father too earlier this year. It must have been very hard for him, and imagine just how he felt when those people... ahhh! I don't even wanna think about it! I'd beat them up!!! "


"If this is real, then...THOSE BITCHES!

Karma has took note of every single person who done this. Just saying! "


"I dunno..
Unless there's pictures or proof I won't believe it.
I really don't think there's people like that. "


"Wow really? How can anybody be that insensitive? It really astonishes me how some people act in this world. Personally im not a beast fan but you don't have to be a fan to feel sympathy. hope he gets through this. "


"

A good portion of the time, I'm ashamed of some of the actions that the Korean VIPs do. Seriously. Hyunseung just lost his father. Respect their wishes in a time of mourning. If a B2uty threw eggs at any of a BigBang family members' funeral, VIPs would be trying to start a massacre (and they'd probably succeed too). WTF is wrong with them?

Same for B2uties. You KNOW better. If anything, this is the time for you to protect Hyunseung the most from any haters/press. Not take part with them. Ugh...Come on Korean fans. And I thought the press taking pictures of Minzy at her grandmother's funeral was bad... "


"u keep thinking how can a people be so stupid
and then they did this
and all ur doubt would be gone
sighs "


"WTF !this is very rude :angry:
what the hell wrong with those people ! I don't even understand why fans have to be at the funeral ??
I mean Before he is a celebrity he is a human that lost his father,So Fans really need to give him some space for him & his family
I feel very sorry for him :( "


" I'm ashamed of our society. That's not even low anymore. Do they know the meaning of respect?
And for the fans who tried to get autographs: Wow... really, you sure are sensitive.
Everytime you think it couldn't get worse people are trying to prove that you're wrong. "


"I honestly don't give a shit if they want to hate, they can hate all they want but going as far as throwing eggs during someone's funeral is not cool. I hope that everything that has been discussed between b2uties for the past hours are just rumors, I really hope so. I also don't think it's VIPs, more like haters. "

"I'm so angry that I'm crying, and I'm not even a fan. "


as I say and others said too so far it's a rumor only someone posted a link talking about more of this story the story was apparently long so the writer broke it down . http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.ca/2012/09/b2uties-call-out-vips-over.html

Taken from the link above

A lot of you requested best replies on news of the passing of Hyunseung's father this past week. I purposely ignored it because I didn't think this was the place or time for it.

The ordeal has actually been brought up as a controversial issue on Nate Pann these past few days with a lot of upset B2uties coming forward and calling a select group of VIPs out for their disrespectful comments towards Hyunseung and his father.


These are two top ranking posts on the topic. I will translate bits and pieces of it and summarize the rest because it's lengthy and kind of redundant, as well as going into a lot of fandom specific things that I'm sure people in either fandom are already well aware of.

Italics are my summaries.

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"Hello, I'm a student who has been a personal fan of Jang Hyunseung for the past year. I won't introduce myself any further as it won't help what I'm about to say in any way. I'm not sure if B2uties are still banned from posting in Nate Pann, and if we still are, then I'll apologize in advance. Should this post become a problem, I will delete it myself.

As you all know, Hyunseung oppa's father passed away the other day. I no longer want to talk about such a heartbreaking thing anymore, but I am bringing it up once again because of how severe the actions of antis and disrespectful B2uties are getting."

She attached a screencap of a best reply left by a VIP on an article about the passing of Hyunseung's father. The best reply stated, "It's unfortunate that he died but I don't think this news is big enough to cover Seungri's scandal..ㅜㅜ.. Or maybe it can.."

"As you can see, this is a hateful reply left on a Nate article.. Words that I cannot even bear reading with open eyes.. Such hurtful words jabbed at my heart as a fan. Each letter choked at me. If someone special to you, if someone in your family had become a piece of ash as well, could you still say such things?"

The OP then goes into Hyunseung's "Trouble Maker" promotions with HyunA. I don't know about the i-fan response, but both Hyunseung and HyunA received A LOT of hate for the song concept being too provocative and too mature for their age and TV.

The reason the topic is brought up is because "Trouble Maker" was a turning point in ruining Hyunseung's image with the public, which the OP thinks has something to do with all of the hateful replies he's receiving now to this day.

"CEO Hong Seung Sung, I really hate you. I hate you so much for making Trouble Maker. As an entertainment CEO, as someone who knows how important an image it is to a singer, to a celebrity, to their life... how could you have thought of putting out a concept like Trouble Maker? Even if Hyunseung wanted to debut with Trouble Maker, you should have stopped him.

What have you gained with such an explosive response? You've earned nothing but antis with a fake image, and now even after his father passed away, he is still receiving hate because of that image.

To so many people, he is remembered with a bad image. Even I, as his fan, would have looked at him in a negative light had I not been a fan at that stage in his career.

Have you ever stopped to think how upset he must feel to see the related search terms when he searches his name? How regretful he must feel? Just because being a celebrity means you have to be strong in the face of hate does not mean that he deserves that hate."

The OP then addresses VIPs and tries to clear up old rumors that they're still spreading about Hyunseung, which I'm not going to get into because they're old and I remember reading them years ago so I'm sure his fans and VIPs already know the truth about them. She's just bringing them up to remind VIPs again that they're spreading false information.

The post then ends with a final letter to VIPs, where she asks them to work together to find middle ground so that neither side has to apologize in the future.


1. [+208, -11] I'm a VIP and I've liked Jang Hyunseung since before the debut of Big Bang. I feel truly upset over the passing of his father and I cannot say anything but sorry after reading those hateful replies. I would like to genuinely apologize. I have no intention of dismissing your post under the excuse of everything being "old news" and I will not defend our fandom saying that the people you are referring to are just the minority. I am just sorry. I will make sure that nothing like this ever happens again. Please forgive us.

2. [+174, -3] Please don't delete this post. It's been a while since I've read anything so respectful. I don't understand why just because Hyunseung debuted as a celebrity, he has to receive comments from people saying good riddance and how it doesn't concern them on such a devastating day. Anyone that said one hateful thing when his father passed away needs to reflect immediately. Put yourself in his shoes. By the way, I am not a B2uty or VIP.

3. [+172, -3] I am sorry that I can't say anything more other than please find strength. I'm sorry that I'm a B2uty that can't explain anything even though I know what's wrong and right. I'm sorry that I'm making it more difficult during the hardest period of his life. I'm sorry that I could do nothing but just watch as he received hate during Trouble Maker despite knowing what a passionate person he is on the inside. I'm sorry to not only Hyunseung, but also to Junhyung for not being able to protect him. Moreover, I'm sorry to B2ST for them having to say that they are no longer afraid of hateful replies because they received so much of them with their debut. Lastly, I'm sorry for all of the disrespectful B2uties that brought hate to such a respectful group.

The following post is a B2uty calling out other fandoms and B2uties for their disrespectful actions at the funeral.

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"Hello. I am writing about something concerning the passing of Hyunseung's father. As you all know, he passed away from a heart attack on the morning of August 20th.

'Rest in Peace.'

How difficult is it to say just that? Why are you leaving hateful replies? What is the reason? Would you like it if someone swore at you when your father passed away? I am so embarrassed to be considered the same human being as you..

Whether or not you are from a different fandom, you should be sad that another life has passed away.

And as a B2uty myself, I never thought I'd call out another B2uty, but I really cannot understand the actions behind the disrespectful B2uties and the reporters that I saw at the funeral.

How dare you hold colorful placards at his funeral? How dare you ask for autographs at such a place? If you were truly for B2ST, then you would mourn his death and look out for Hyunseung at home, away from becoming a nuisance to Hyunseung at the funeral.

And to the reporters.. How would you like it if someone kept taking pictures when your father passed away?

I really cannot differentiate whether you guys are truly fans or antis in disguise... Did you think Hyunseung would gladly give you an autograph and check out your placards during his father's funeral?

I'm so embarrassed as a B2uty... Don't call yourself a B2uty if you're going to do that.

I also heard that antis had thrown eggs at Yoseob at the funeral... I am just praying that it is truly nothing but a rumor.

To the antis... please don't hurt the hearts of B2ST. I'm sure you guys have fandoms yourselves.. Would you feel happy if your favorite artists were hated on? Please, put yourself in the shoes of others."


Replies to the blog

"Fans always think they know what's best for the idols, which surprise surprise, coincidentally aligns with what THEY want. Let these people lead their own lives and careers. You are not their manager, you are not their mother, you are just a fan. Learn your place.

Some VIPs are never going to get over the whole Hyunseung drama, whether its true or not. Oh well, what can be done. "


"ghh im enraged with this...! in moments like this, you should say RIP and thats all not leave stupid comments... day by day fans talk more and more like theyre part of the mafia O__o... are people that cold-hearted that they just care about a person's death because it might cover someone else's scandal? just stfo!

poor Hyunseung... I still remember that special where B2st's dads were dancing "Fiction" and MR. Jang looked healthy and everything :( hope he can RIP and that their families gather the strength to continue... "

"never understand why fans have to be at the funeral... and media should give them privacy"

"Can someone tell me what's with the VIP drama? why are they mostly talked about in this article? I'm sorry I don't follow beast or big bang so I dont know what's the link between their fandoms.

I hope his father rest in peace.

AnonymousSeptember 23, 2012 3:26 AM

^ it is because one of beast members always ends up using the same clothes GD used before, so VIPS get angry with it and hate on the guy.

Yeah believe it? Vips hating on the guy even when his dad died because THEY USED THE SAME CLOTHES.

And funny thing is GD copies others artirts all the time LOLOLOL"

"At a time like this, when a person is mourning the loss of a loved one, shouldn't people empathize and be respectful? What has humanity come to? Antis..how do you live with yourself, knowing you make other human beings so unhappy? Do you enjoy causing such disrespectful acts? Do you not have parents and siblings and friends you care deeply for? Imagine if your parents or sibling or friend was constantly hated on and receiving negative comments daily..would you be happy? Hyunseung is a hardworking idol. His collab with HyunA to create Trouble Maker was mature and artistic and new. If you don't like it, stop watching their performances and just go on with your lives. Why hate? Why torment Hyunseung while he is mourning the loss of his father? Why throw eggs at B2ST members while they too are mourning the loss of someone close to them? I don't understand and fear for the future if people like this are the future generations we are suppose to rely on. And for k-B2UTYs that disturbed the peaceful mourning at the funeral home with colorful placards and shouting for autographs? If you are a true fan of B2ST, why can't you just give it a rest for sometime and not pester them. These idols, the 6 boys we all love and care for, are also humans. They have emotions and are entitled to privacy like you and I. Please, I hope nothing else like this ever happens again to Hyunseung, to B2ST or to anyone in the world.

RIP Papa Jang"


"eally... some of you calling out b2uties and vips, do you know who are the most disrespectful ones? REPORTERS. at least spare their family and not taking picture or video continuously. -_-

as a fellow i-b2uty, i hope b2uties can learn from this and in the future behave accordingly. b2uties have done many mistakes before, and it was either our own b2st oppas (wait, there're only few of them i can call "oppa" though -.-") and b2uties who call out to us. at such, i'm glad fellow b2uties step up to straighten the ridiculous behavior of some b2uties. in the future, i hope b2uties can be a good fandom. it'd never be a perfect and smooth ride, but i hope b2st can continue giving us their best. i'm sure hyungseung will be stronger through this. much condolescence to him and his family, and may his father rest in peace.

ah.... this has been a hard week... T.T"


Well that's all folks this long post has come to an end I hope I do not read anymore articles involving disrespect at a funeral again . JYJ's Yoochun had the Press all over taking pictures and fans all trying to get close but they at least kept things secure enough no harm came to any of them. Minzy from 2NE1 wasn't just photographed but also there was recordings and video of her making a speech at the funeral. So terrible! and now Throwing eggs *if it's true* and Asking for autographs >.< when will this sickness be cure?!

Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Boycotting

so I have a hard time with boycotting I think it's pointless and does more harm than good. People who are not involved in matters the people are upset over end up suffering and paying for the companies mistakes or unjust ways. Some people Really Piss me off there are more than a handful of fangirls I could point out that claim a unfounded hatred towards SME artists who have done no wrong and are not even involved with the hot mess between DBSK TVXQ JYJ and SME these people cannot stop working just because you are pissed off at the CEO of the company they signed contracts with . These men and women have families to support mouths to feed rent and bills to pay and they are under some pretty airtight contracts to do so. People need to make a living being happy with the situation or not does not change things one iota.

If you want to make a difference do not hurt the artists hurt the man in the power seat. I do not care if you only care about your bias and your self be selfish all you want but how about using your brains and not your hormones to make a difference. Do you want to make a difference in the case against SME Cassies? How about marching with signs that show the universal laws SME has broken with their trainees and artists. How about marching in front of the court with those signs. how about chanting for JYJ in front of the court. The only person who can help you get what you want and what the guys deserve is the judge , you could probably even send mail to the court if you wanted . but boycotting that's like trying to get rid of a bee put waving a flower at it. Boycotting SME is laughable to him he still continues pushing his artists they still perform even if they barely make a cent on the performance. because the truth of the matter is there will always be people like me still supporting the artists I love even while a mass of fangirls in sheepskins boycott them.


I researched SME boycotting and found this tumblr post

http://krazim.tumblr.com/post/2556292578

I will copy and past my favorite parts from it

"boycotting sme won’t do anything

unless you practically get 95% of the fans to do it, well then… sure it will. but if it’s practically just 50%, literally, sme will still profit. "

"if you guys didn’t know, record labels do use the money you make for them wisely - usually for your benefit. there are those who pay for your rent - or house(s), hire a team of marketers who do a really good job at promoting you, vacation, tours, gas for your car, and other things. yes, and most of them usually pay for your music videos, making your album, creating your dvds, etc. and these cost more than hundreds of millions to do. music videos usually cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to make. making a good album cost almost the equivalent or more. going on tour will usually land you in a couple of thousands.

and if you’re boycotting a certain label to “protect” your artist, it isn’t really “protecting” your artist. it hurts them more… unless that’s your intention. the money the artists makes from their previous album sales (and other promotions) is used for their next album promotion. the more the money company makes = the better concept and promotion for the next comeback. and the artist actually gets paid - it’s not slavery unless you’re not getting paid for anything."

Where most of that is true if you are told you are going to get a certain amount of money and you do not get it but you have completed that contract you deserve your money. If you work on something and you are getting a lower percentage then agreed upon or not getting paid at all things change. for example she mentioned Vacations how many vacations have the artists under SME taken ? not very many it's not a vacation if you are there for work. If you are there to make a video a special DVD or TV series or photo shoots then sorry that's not a vacation that's going on location to an exotic place to spice things up.

"next time you want your artist to be on more variety shows, get more stage presence, or do anything that requires work and effort - DON’T EVER COMPLAIN ABOUT SLAVE CONTRACTS. "

I must admit that fans are pretty pushy more so those belonging to fandoms , you have created as much of a problem for the artists you love as the company has. Companies try to keep up with demands after all.


Cassies have Boycotted SME more than once (THIS IS OLD NEWS OBVIOUSLY SINCE WE KNOW BOA HAS FLURISHED AND REMAINS POPULAR)

http://kitto-no-toho.blogspot.ca/2010/01/news-sm-gone-too-far-cassiopeia.html

"For years now, Cassiopeia has not been on good relations with SM. There has been constant bickering to and fro from the beginning. In fact Cass were pretty much fanclub babies when they had to butt heads majorly with SME.

Let's take a walk down memory lane at the beginnings of the hectic relationship of now, the Worlds Largest Fanclub and Koreas leading Entertainment company (SM pales in comparison already don’t they?). When TVXQ were still fresh and young SM gave them their first challenge. SM was going to either take away a member or add one.

That is where the 5+1=0/5-1=0 movement came about. Cass was infuriated, they did not want their beloved boys to be altered, the very reason they entered that fandom was to support them as a whole. So how and why could SM dare to add or subtract a member? Push came to shove and Cass ended up boycotting all SM products, including of course, DBSKs."

At that time SME wasn't what it is today so they gave in but they aren't affected by this anymore.

"But why a boycott, why now? And what has this got to do with SNSD?

A lot of what pushed them to the edge has happened since their debut, and because of their disapproval of SNSD. For years as some of you know, and some of you don't, SM has been disregarding their fans. Not just Cassiopeia, but pretty much every FanClub under SME. Shall we take a run through?

Jumping BoA:Well, simply put, when is the last time they saw her? Her last official release in Korea was back in, 2005 was it? "Girls on Top". Her Korean fans have barely seen her and she has been unbelievably active in Japan that some in Japan consider her a native. And when did Jumping BoA finally get to see their star? When SM was lacking in sales in SMTownLive in Seoul and needed the 'moneymaker' BoA to rescue them, by pulling in some Jumping BoAs. Now how insulting is that? For your entire fanclub to be ignored until the company needs some star power? Let's not forget her sudden trip to the US now, wasn't she supposed to come back to Korea?

TRAXians: Do you know who they are? My point exactly. Another example of poor marketing and sending off again to Japan. They haven’t been active for an extremely long while, although their main vocals Jay (Typhoon) has had an operation on his vocal chords, I’m pretty sure he has recovered by now.

Shapley: Need I mention the lack of promotions for CSJH The Grace? These poor 4 talented girls have also been shipped off to Japan to start all over again, after finally getting some recognition in Korea. Not forgetting the well known "stealing of color" issue earlier this year, where SNSD fans were favored over Shapley, although Shapley are the senior fanclub.

E.L.F: Where do I start? Honestly I have no idea where to begin with ELF. ELF have suffered in their short life span as well, when Cass succeeded in keeping their boys together, SM has walked all over ELF and they are still suffering due to the "sub group/extra member" issues.

Chocolates: Zhang LiYin does not get any backing deserving of her talents. The poor girl has been in China, her native country, and doesn’t get much support from SM in terms of promotions. Her fans are suffering continuously and one of the biggest insults was when in SMTownLive08 ShangHai, ZLY only sang two solo songs while other hoobaes (juniors) had more songs to sing.

Ayumi Lee: Her fans still to this day wonder what is happening with her promotions. She had joined SME with the hopes of getting better backing, but now has been shipped to Japan as well, as an actress. She is continuously ignored and left in the background. And where was she SMTownLive?

And that's me being extremely vague. The artists and the fans suffer, and of course the fans are the only ones with the voices, considering that they are not bound by contract. And with the past SM has had with contracts and artists leaving the company, you know that their contracts will be iron clad and very very specific."


There is just so much she has written and I do not feel like posting it all so do go read the history for yourselves . The person who wrote them is more than likely a Cassie and she is very informative. reading it all has not changed my mind on boycotting or about how crazy they can be but it does Highlight more of SME's actions and mistreatment towards it's artists.

This comes from a post on Crunchyroll forum from 2008 talking about boycotting SME

"I mean, personally, I have nothing against SM the label, it's more like..the people who run it.

There's a saying in Korea that states: "If you don't make it with SM then you can't make it anywhere." It's actually half true. The reason Shinhwa broke away from SM is that they couldn't stand not being able to participate in recording their album (like writing songs, being more active in the whole process, not being controlled), and the only reason why they're still doing fine is that their fanbase is HUGE and the fans are VERY supportive of their split from SM. Shinhwa was fed up with their songs being controlled, and fed up with being hit and bullied by SM managers. -__-;;
Basically, when you get old/get less popular in SM, they just leave you to rot. They'll discard you like an old sock.

SM controls your life - when you sign on, you're basically signing away your soul. When DBSK was first formed, Soo Man gave the order to put the boys on a water diet (they basically starved the boys to the extreme) to make their faces slimmer so that they look better in pictures. They often try to get artists to get plastic surgery in order to boost their appearances. No joke. SM goes for looks first, then talent. (They got lucky with DBSK - looks AND talent.)


When the whole scare that DBSK was going to be rotated came around (meaning winter-spring time this year), did you see the members cry at the perf.s and such? Well, I believe they were screamed at, then hit around, and they were banned from going to any press conferences. They were split up (put into different rooms and such) and they weren't allowed to discuss anything regarding it. I believe if they were going to rotate, they had announced that Jaejoong and Yoochun would be the first to leave because they "cause so much trouble".

If the fans did not stage the boycott of SM goods, I believe they really would have rotated DBSK. Plus the fact that Changmin is still a minor and their parents can still sue SM under their contract."

Posted 5 days ago on Korea.com comment on an article over the JYJ SME case

"No fair minded person who believes in the rule of law for all citizens and fairness for its nation’s greatest artists can do anything but deplore this latest act of shameful stalling by SM Entertainment. The International fans of JYJ call upon all of the world’s people to boycott SM, their stock, their artists and all product they produce in protest of this blatantly obvious ploy to further delay justice for JYJ. End this lawsuit NOW! The International community is watching what is going on in S.Korea and its compromised justice system and we are appalled!"

and although I agree that they should be appalled I do not believe a boycott will fix things.

that same person posted this on another site

"I just posted this on AllK-Pop:

I would like to ask all fans of JYJ not to mention believers in simple justice to boycott all SM product until they settle this case. If we vote with our wallets — if enough of us do, this terrible stalemate will end. If it’s just business as usual for SM, then maybe it won’t. We ALL want to move on. Please boycott SM so we can."

taken from JYJ3 comments on the court case recently

"@Shirley
“Although they’re apparently very powerful in Korea, SM should be investigated to the fullest extent. They are beginning to sound like the Korean mafia. Who do you know that can investigate them and expose their devious ways? Is everybody afraid of SM? ”

From what I’ve seen so far I’d have to say YES. All the interested parties are. All the people in the media who depend on having access to SM acts week in, week out are, all the people who own or book concert venues are, the CD manufacturers are, independent songwriters and producers who want to be able to work in SK are, etc etc etc and the rest of the Korean public couldn’t care less one way or the other. They have more pressing concerns to worry about in their lives than the cause of justice for already wealthy young, handsome pop stars.

THIS has been the problem so far. In SK, either Fear, among those in the allied industries of the music business or Apathy, among the general populace rules. The current government won’t step in because they are in bed all cozy and warm with SM Entertainment because of its relentless, largely exaggerated pushing of the Hallyu Wave as a source of economic growth and promotion for the country. Also, somebody somewhere talked the country’s financial advisers into investing their pension and welfare funds heavily into SM stock. So the current government literally has a vested interest in the continued health and prosperity of…. SM Entertainment. I think you can begin to see the problem.

Nobody ever said the powers-that-be at SM are stupid. Quite the contrary. They have covered their evil, duplicitous asses quite well. If they go down a pretty significant segment of the SK population suffers, one way or the other. Does that mean we stop trying to BRING them down, crashingly, in flames?? Hell, no."

And so once again I would like to try to encourage a method of action that just might benefit them gather your pitch forks fan signs megaphones and more and let the court know how you feel protest against the right people the people who will make a change possible. LSM is not about to bend over for any of us haven't you learned anything from the relentless way he is still clinging to the court cases after losing. The man is like a dog gripping a bone in it's jaws in this case a pitbull with a locked jaw seems to describe him the best no matter what you do he will not release JYJ from his grip. Protest in front of the court do not boycott sme it serves no purpose.

KEFU now TAOFAE

I thought I would take this time to tell you more about KEFU (*Careful* as I both loving and jokingly call it) the Facebook group I was brought into and then kidnapped as an admin for and then later in some ways have become a co-founder of. I am not sure what Aniah the creator of the group may think of that but since join the group and being kidnapped by the other admins and herself I have somewhat taken over having the name of the group changed and some other things. My good friend calls me the co founder and I am obliged to agree with her. I have however left the group and together with Muriah and some others continue to publish blog posts and articles.

NEW LOGO IN THE MAKING



K-EFU

https://www.facebook.com/groups/241956989231090/ , this is the group we were in that had become somewhat of a ghost town  but should it every blossom again I am sure it will be great.  There are many good people there trying to make a difference .

TAOFAE

The projects fb account when we get ideas for a project or work on one that account is the one used

https://www.facebook.com/taofae

http://layaboutheotaku.wordpress.com (A fellow admin's Turkish blog ) 

Description

K-EFU is a group of devoted Korean Entertaiment Fans from across the globe , the memb
er count currently stands at 173 members in just short of six months created March 2012 with other helpful supporters who have not joined the facebook group but read our blogs retweet our tweets and comment on our videos. We have supporters who have volunteered their help when we may need it. As of  November 2013 I am no longer part of K-EFU, I am however part of TAOFAE which consists of members from K-EFU as well as previous members. TAOFAE has the same feelings as K-EFU and stands for the same things as well.

 We try to bring light to the dire state the lives of some Actors, Actresses, Comedians, Singers , Models all whom are involved in the Korean Entertainment Industry. We strive to improve the quality of life Korean officials and their police force are failing to maintain for their Celebrities. We strive to bring Sasaeng Activities to a halt to end the terror and injustice they create towards Celebrities.

Mission Statement:
To end the wrong doing caused by sasaengs "stalkerfans". As fans we are meant to have respect for ourselves and others. This includes other fandoms and the celebrities that work hard to entertain us. To find alternative was to deal with sasaengs in a non-violent way. To persuade the law enforcement, Government, and families to take action in handling sasaeng activities before it escalates to a point where murder is committed and people are physically injured beyond healing. Suicide is already a big issue along with Bullying we just want to reduce and prevent e it all as best as we can .

Admins/Fellow members

Dilem Salman totally an anti-sasaeng. She was once an otaku but then dived into K-POP world. But realised something is wrong and wants to fix it. Loves anime, manga and other otaku stuff. A literature student. Also author of Turkish blog she is a huge JYJ fan


Muriah Scippio Totally against sasaeng fans. Thinks that the parents and government needs to step in and do their jobs and handle sasaeng fans properly. She loves and animals and is a Vet Technician (animal nurse). Loves to draw and cook. Also loves to learn and loves to do research. (one of the the people who helps me gather ideas bounce ideas off of and one of my project partners for KEFU)Muriah has many groups she really loves how ever she is definitely a cassie



Myself Marie Joanna aka MJ former youth of a non profit organization Leave Out Violence a group against violence. Dislikes all violence and Sasaeng activities to me are Violence. Interested in most literary arts and children studies . love music, poetry and a good book. (I'm a free agent I love many groups though I do wear a Primadonna bracelet and have been part of sjworld fan forum )

Above are no longer in K-EFU , There are other admins still in K-EFU  and other admins that are part of K-EFU I honestly do not know very well and some I know better.

Among the admins/members who have yet to write their profiles there are

Sanju Kim a Korean American who loves DBSK and FTIsland , who hates the way the men get treated so cruelly. She hates seeing others hurting and is against violence. She is devoted to her faith, disagrees with sasaeng actions. Jaejoong and Seunghyun are her favorite entertainers. Sanju is a cassie-primadonna

there is also Asia she is a loving caring person who want to help others like Sanju she is devoted to the well being of others. She cares more about the well being of others than over herself.her heart breaks when she sees and hears all the things the idols are forced to bear and live through expected to smile the whole time they suffer through it. Asia is more like me in the free love freelance fandom style

and that concludes my post god bless to all my readers

Saturday, September 15, 2012

Your Universal Rights

Article 1.

All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.


Article 2.

Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.


Article 3.

Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.


Article 4.

No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms.


Article 5.

No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.


Article 6.

Everyone has the right to recognition everywhere as a person before the law.


Article 7.

All are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination in violation of this Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination.


Article 8.

Everyone has the right to an effective remedy by the competent national tribunals for acts violating the fundamental rights granted him by the constitution or by law.


Article 9.

No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile.


Article 10.

Everyone is entitled in full equality to a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal, in the determination of his rights and obligations and of any criminal charge against him.


Article 11.

(1) Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defense.
(2) No one shall be held guilty of any penal offense on account of any act or omission which did not constitute a penal offence, under national or international law, at the time when it was committed. Nor shall a heavier penalty be imposed than the one that was applicable at the time the penal offence was committed.


Article 12.

No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.


Article 13.

(1) Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state.
(2) Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country.



Article 14.

(1) Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution.
(2) This right may not be invoked in the case of prosecutions genuinely arising from non-political crimes or from acts contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.


Article 15.

(1) Everyone has the right to a nationality.
(2) No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his nationality nor denied the right to change his nationality.


Article 16.

(1) Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution.
(2) Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses.
(3) The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.


Article 17.

(1) Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others.
(2) No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.


Article 18.

Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.


Article 19.

Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.



Article 20.

(1) Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association.
(2) No one may be compelled to belong to an association.


Article 21.

(1) Everyone has the right to take part in the government of his country, directly or through freely chosen representatives.
(2) Everyone has the right of equal access to public service in his country.
(3) The will of the people shall be the basis of the authority of government; this will shall be expressed in periodic and genuine elections which shall be by universal and equal suffrage and shall be held by secret vote or by equivalent free voting procedures.


Article 22.

Everyone, as a member of society, has the right to social security and is entitled to realization, through national effort and international co-operation and in accordance with the organization and resources of each State, of the economic, social and cultural rights indispensable for his dignity and the free development of his personality.


Article 23.

(1) Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favourable conditions of work and to protection against unemployment.
(2) Everyone, without any discrimination, has the right to equal pay for equal work.
(3) Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection.
(4) Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions for the protection of his interests.



Article 24.

Everyone has the right to rest and leisure, including reasonable limitation of working hours and periodic holidays with pay.


Article 25.

(1) Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.
(2) Motherhood and childhood are entitled to special care and assistance. All children, whether born in or out of wedlock, shall enjoy the same social protection.



Article 26.

(1) Everyone has the right to education. Education shall be free, at least in the elementary and fundamental stages. Elementary education shall be compulsory. Technical and professional education shall be made generally available and higher education shall be equally accessible to all on the basis of merit.
(2) Education shall be directed to the full development of the human personality and to the strengthening of respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms. It shall promote understanding, tolerance and friendship among all nations, racial or religious groups, and shall further the activities of the United Nations for the maintenance of peace.
(3) Parents have a prior right to choose the kind of education that shall be given to their children.


Article 27.

(1) Everyone has the right freely to participate in the cultural life of the community, to enjoy the arts and to share in scientific advancement and its benefits.
(2) Everyone has the right to the protection of the moral and material interests resulting from any scientific, literary or artistic production of which he is the author.

Article 28.

Everyone is entitled to a social and international order in which the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration can be fully realized.


Article 29.

(1) Everyone has duties to the community in which alone the free and full development of his personality is possible.
(2) In the exercise of his rights and freedoms, everyone shall be subject only to such limitations as are determined by law solely for the purpose of securing due recognition and respect for the rights and freedoms of others and of meeting the just requirements of morality, public order and the general welfare in a democratic society.
(3) These rights and freedoms may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.


Article 30.

Nothing in this Declaration may be interpreted as implying for any State, group or person any right to engage in any activity or to perform any act aimed at the destruction of any of the rights and freedoms set forth herein.

I have made some of these rights Bold and Italic my reason for that is the fact that these are rights Korean entertainers have had abused.

Sasaengs are guilty of breaking many of these laws but they are not the only ones Company CEO's, Broadcasting companies and the Korean government themselves. You can come sue me for slander if you like you won't get much I am on social assistance and you would have to prove what I am saying is false.

Koreans use their entertainers as scape goats but do not punish those in the public eye like sasaengs and private taxi drivers. The also do not do enough in their school systems to protect their students as so many get bullied in school , or are bullies in school and so many in a result of bullying kill themselves.

Some may wonder why the marriage one was highlighted and that is due to something not only involving an entertainer I like who had been fooled into signing a marriage license but also due to the fact that sasaengs have been known to try and steal personal seals to forge marriage documents I believe DBSK's sasaengs are the ones linked to this action.

They have exiled someone for moving to the USA though he was suppose to go into the military and it just wasn't something he was passionate about. Who wants dispassionate people protecting their country not that they would be protecting your country anyways in the long run. Let's face it some people just aren't geared for that life style. Also I do not believe they went to court but just exiled him like that .

my favorite funny man Hong Dong ahjusshi was made to be a criminal for owing back taxes that happens to the best of us normally we just pay it back and it's all good . Sadly that wasn't the case for my favorite Ahjusshi instead he has had to retire has lost credibility was purposely denied a chance to win an award in my opinion was rightfully his to win. The entertainment world has lost something special with him not being part of it.

SME is Extremely Guilty of breaking no less than 2 of these laws it's a known fact that artists under SME have very little rest or leisure, do not get paid the same amount of money , and have not had certain living comforts . one member of Super Junior didn't even have a bed for a long time and if I am not mistaking only got a bed because of fans. They have also been blocking JYJ from being able to perform in Korea.

I could go on with more things and I will definitely post more articles and the likes though up to now I believe I have posted more than enough things to prove just how much these laws have been broken.

2 blogs mine & hers

http://ethlenn.blogspot.ca/2012/05/come-to-fandom-they-said.html

I read this blog and really liked it I now follow it

I will copy and paste things from her blog with my opinions as well as most I agree with and some I agree a little less first things first the photo on her blog . hers will always be in " " where as mine wont.




I agree with this whole heartedly hardcore fangirls are like soldiers armed with venomous fangless mouths that tear into you trying to tear you to shards for the sole fact that you do not follow their belief system and dare to have a mind of your own with your own set of morals and values that oppose their own .

"I don’t want to complain about the center of all fandoms, I’m not going to argue whether this-or-that music is good or bad. Because, ultimately, it’s the music, right? I truly enjoy some Kpop bands/singers.
What I loathe is their fandoms."

so far I'm all on board I cannot deny there have been alot of good things to come out of fandoms. However I feel much bad has come so much in fact that it overshadows the good.

"Nowadays, it’s really hard to stay beyond the fandom, especially when a person is connected to social media (be it twitter, fora, tumblr, blogs, facebook etc.) and bombarded by all kinds of information from around. Of course some do that, but they don’t belong to “fans” world. They like to listen to this-or-this song, but it doesn’t make anyone a fan. I like to listen to Panjabi once every 5 months, but that doesn’t make me a fan of Hindu music (au contraire, India culture scares me with its unhinged vitality-destruction violent circle). I’m talking about being a fan as a part of the fandom – that is: knowing about the albums, tours, interviews etc. The hideous and sick subgenre to fans is sasaeng group, but I wrote about them so many times already so that I won’t sacrifice the space here and now."

tsk tsk now this is where I start to disagree not with the fact that it is hard to stay beyond the fandom let's face it KPOP is everywhere! and honestly I like it that way. I do not think you have to know everything about a group, love everything about a group, buy everything about a group in order to be a fan. I listen to a wide selection of Asian music Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Malaysian & Indonesian I do not know anything about many of the singers or bands and do not attempt to find much out but I am a fan of their music. I love the way Chinese music sounds a lot of it has a very soothing effect on me. I am a fan of the genre itself not so much of the artists though I am Definitely a fan of some groups. Just because it may not be my first choice does not mean I am not a fan of it my passion towards it just isn't as overwhelming as it is towards something else.
I am not in a fandom at least I do not consider myself to be I am a freelance fan. I know about group tours I just do not pay attention to them mainly since it's a rare thing to hear they are in Montreal besides the fact that although I love the groups concerts aren't much in my comfort zone since I do not always do well in large massive groups of pushy loud people. I read or watch the interviews, save as many pictures as I can of groups I really enjoy or find aesthetically pleasing. I buy the albums as well but I do not always know everything about the albums off the top of my head. There are groups I really love listening to but I have no idea how many cds they have or all the names of them I am just not that passionate just having access to their songs is good enough for me.

"I was suppressing my anger for a long, long time, since, truth be told, I was never a real part of any fandom (a short and painful encounter with Cassies doesn’t count). Ever since Infinite, this became an integrated part of my life and daily routine – checking the official website, having subbing teams’ websites bookmarked, and of course listening to the music, watching shows etc. I like it. It’s the fandom I started to hate."

so far I can follow this I am not even that dedicated sadly but I have to admit with Super Junior I was very active in finding the shows they were on subbed in english and going to fan forums and the likes.

"I learned about OTP in a crude way – by stepping on some fragment of a fanfic. "
"fandoms took OTP (One True Pairing) into a new level, and yet not the higher one. Fangirls (age 8 – 20) are sure band members are fucking. They are even surer of that than of sun rising on the east the next day. If band members display the affection towards each other – it’s a proof they’re having sex 265 times a day. If they don’t – it means they have “silent days” in their ‘marriage’".So they ship, yes ship (I don't know why a ship) some OTP and - and this is good part - if 1/2 of this OTP starts to, I dunno, talk with another member, a hell breaks loose. Fangirls hate it, write letters, cut themselves, armageddon!! Instead of shrugging it because normal people talk to others, especially in a closed group. It's hard NOT to talk, stand close each other sometimes."

I definitely have to admit that some really have taken things a little too far but I think it's safe to say the age range is actually higher since there have been sasaengs and devoted fans in their 30s for that matter if I was Korean or Chinese I would be 30 following the lunar calendar of age. Most of us know it's all fake but we just live in the fantasy it's not like we really wish for it or want it to happen it's true however some take things to extremes.

"When I was younger, you know, we fangirls dreamed about snatching the guy to ourselves. We imagined our dream dates, and we KNEW those were just an empty talk. A dream to make our days brighter, fluffier and nicer. When we watched Kylie and Jason’s Especially for You MV, we were envious of Kylie. We wanted to be in her place (it’s a fangirl thing, you won’t understand).
Nowadays, fangirls dream of group members to snatch each other, marry and adopt some kids. This is nothing against gay rights, just to clarify things. So fangirls get high by imagining their idol is not with them (as a usual, normal fangirl would do) but with another guy from the band. What’s the purpose of this? “If he can’t be with me, let him be with a band mate?” What the f*ck is this logic? Heck, even crazy fangirls of Guns’n’Roses didn’t want see their guys one on another, you know. I find it disturbing and disgusting. It doesn’t show an ounce of admiration to your “idol” at all. It doesn’t show your appreciation of their talent. And as my friend V. said – it’s partially the agency’s fault as well. People from there know exactly about those idiotic OTPs that fangirls create and they pair the members like that for a photoshoot. But don’t blame the members when they start to flair up about the oppressive fandom (it has already begun and I wonder how that will go).
I don’t have to add that the most ruined image has SuJu, right? According to fans (they even change wikipedia from time to time, writing “husband to…”, “wife of…” there, seriously), all in SJ screwed each other. No virgins."

Once again I wont and can't generalize because I know many people are still fangirls in the way I am and how I used to be just like this girl was. I cannot however deny that I have shipped pairs in groups. it has mainly been in fun, I do not wish them to be together though if there is something real between them I hope they will be together. I am a yaoi lover but I am a full time yaoi lover, I watch the themed movies and all. I daydream about them sweeping me away but I am not adverse to them sweeping each other away either I mean who could deny love? I know many girls who day dream of their bias but who also ship him with someone.I have a friend who is in love with FTIslands Seunghyun but she still supports the thought of SeungJae because Jaejin and him have a special friendship a brotherhood but she doesn't really want him to be with him she wants him for herself. I think we sometimes think if I have to share my bias with someone I would rather it be with someone I know loves him and who loves him more than me? well his bandmate. I admit it's odd but hey no one is perfect. There are many idols who really do not care about that kind of things no matter what fans end up think as she mentioned there are so many pairs in Suju due to the large number of members. They do not care if the fans think dirty things of them as long as they continue to support them in anyways possible at the end of the day sex sells and if the fans think they are together and are willing to support them buy spending money on their albums and merchandise well all the better for it. Some fangirls really are extreme and need some help there was never any doubts about it but I refuse to generalize because there are a lot of fans out there who have perfectly healthy mentalities.


"Very recent about another fandom, namely Inspirits. For a year I thought it’s one of the friendliest, sanest fandoms in Kpop world. Latest alevin of fangirls brought some bad blood with it and they distort this used to be nice fandom. We, older Inspirits, love all 7. We may have our favorite (usually more than one, cause it’s a really hard task to stick with just one in this group, I have 3) but we support all of them. New piece-of-carps are distorting it. They have one and only one, but they don’t stop at this – they bash others. The main war is between two main vocals’ fan girls. The reason? Sit, because this is beyond ridiculous – the number of lines, the screen time. I mean… o---key. When did they run from the mental facility? Because such person has to be a deranged lunatic to argue about those thing. It affects the whole fandom, and it makes us look bad. I wrote replies to one of my tumblr friends’ posts who wanted to explain as calmly and reasonably as she could that such war is pointless and ludicrous. But I doubt 13-years-olds would understand half of the words of her posts, so it may be written in vain. But it has to be done nonetheless. Fine, I admit, it was Wuhyeon’s voice who caught my attention at first, and he still is my greasy cutie, but the award for the best voice in this group goes to Seonggyu, I’m so sorry. Now, butt hurt fan girls, you can track me and sue me, I don’t really care. Fighting over such nonsense thing is an absurd. It’s tiring and it’s ugly. Plus, our little fandom lately has been cracking and vanishing. Why? All because as I wrote in Infinitize review – fans wanted boys’ new album to sound like everything else in Kpop. They wanted to get another EXO album. Oh, I’m sorry idiots, Woolliment is not SMEnt, if you haven’t noticed. Thanks to the all gods, old, new and forgotten for that! Don’t try to reason that SMEnt has a good music. It has catchy music, but catchy doesn't mean good music. In fangirlish: catchy=/=good. Except for some, all filler songs on DBSK albums are boring. Deal with that. SHINee has generic music, beaten only by that of SuJu (I don’t count girls groups cause they’re all carp, ALL). I don’t understand war among fandoms, but war inside of one fandom is just beyond my capability of understanding. It’s just not right."

I think most of us can agree that these kind of wars are pointless and they happen in far too many fandoms to count. This happens in girl groups as much as boy groups and I do not share her view on girl groups because I happen to be a fan of numerous ones.I do have to agree with the fact that so many kpop songs sound alike and there needs to be some improvement. The music is all still good to me but sometimes I really can't tell the difference between groups. I think catchy is good because I good song is often that though at the same time there are some songs I dislike and I dislike them more because they are catchy so even if I do not like it I end up singing it anyways. This person apparently has her own idea on what good music is to her and I respect that she's allowed her opinion but I happen to enjoy a lot of groups in SME I just dislike the company not its artists. I must agree War between fandoms is something I shake my head at and roll my eyes over but within it's own fandom is so much worse like the JYJ fandom they do not even realize they are tearing the fandom apart and doing no favors to the men who all love each other and value their brotherhood. Fandom wars are pointless and disgusting.

"Does this make me give up on K-music? No, because I came here for music, not for fandom."

I agree with that 100%